1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,960 In the criminal justice system the people are represented 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,600 by two separate yet equally important groups. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,640 The police who investigate crime 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,880 and the crown prosecutors who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,920 These are their stories. 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,280 Excuse me, what are you doing? Are you Mrs Lerner? 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,800 No. I work for Mrs Lerner. I'm not fussed so long as you let me in. 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,160 She wants broadband upstairs. 9 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:41,200 Fetch. 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,480 Did you ring the bell? 11 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:49,520 Do you know, it never occurred to me. 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,560 Wipe your feet. 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,680 Nice gaff. 14 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,520 It was not before. Fitted carpets, easy to clean. 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,560 Much better. 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,600 Uh... 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,840 They want to put a computer in the office 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,880 and one in the guest bedroom. 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,920 Job spec said only one extra outlet. 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,960 Haven't they got a wireless router? 21 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,600 You have to talk to her. Mrs Lerner! 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,240 The man from the broadband is here! 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,680 Mrs Lerner! 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,880 Hello! 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,880 Mrs Lerner! 26 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:43,080 Victims are Elaine and David Lerner. 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,120 The cleaner found them. 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,160 Right. Who's the young Elvis? 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,280 He came to install broadband. He was waiting outside. 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Point of entry? 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,960 Entry and exit, broken window in the kitchen. 32 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,120 With a blood trail leading back there from the bedroom. 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,960 Right. Have we got anything missing, do you know? 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,600 The cleaner is doing an inventory and the daughter is on her way. 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,640 She's driving down from Leeds. 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,880 What a homecoming. 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,400 A dozen stab wounds between them and still counting. 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,400 At a rough guess, I'd say they've been dead not more than 48 hours. 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,960 The wife is still tucked in. Didn't actually know what hit her. 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,000 The husband not so lucky. 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Defensive stab wounds on both hands. 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,720 Through 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,920 and...through. 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,520 So, what do you think? Husband wakes up, see's his wife being attacked, 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,560 and tries to fight back. 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,600 "David and Elaine. 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Here's to the next 20 years." 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,280 Or not, as it turns out. 49 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Our murder weapon is a chisel taken from a tool bag on the landing. 50 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,040 So he entered the house unarmed? 51 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Maybe he thought no-one was home. 52 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,400 Heard a noise and grabbed the first thing that came to hand. 53 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Why head upstairs? They didn't interrupt him. 54 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,200 They were still in bed. Was anything taken? 55 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Apparently not. Jewellery, cash, electrics all still present. 56 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,560 If you went there to kill them, why go unarmed? 57 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,320 And if it's a burglary, why leave empty-handed? 58 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,280 He had just butchered two people. Maybe he wasn't thinking straight. 59 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,800 He was thinking straight enough to have a wash before he went. 60 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,320 And he wiped the chisel before he dropped it. 61 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,160 So no prints, then. Not on the murder weapon, guv, 62 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,480 but elsewhere we're spoiled for choice. 63 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,520 We've got 38 sets of unknown prints. 64 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,560 Popular couple. 65 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,120 They were renovating the house, it was crawling with workmen. 66 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,480 But this is what we're concentrating on. 67 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,840 It's a partial thumb print on the headboard. Mrs Lerner's blood. 68 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:25,160 It's a good match to another partial found near the broken window. 69 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Except it's not on the system. 70 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Print everyone who's worked on that house. Any word from the daughter? 71 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,960 We're meeting her at the house. 72 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,680 I'd like to talk to forensics regarding the MO. 73 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,640 Although the prints haven't turned up on the system, 74 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,400 anything this brutal might ring bells. Get to it. 75 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,440 Ta. 76 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,480 What? I get the grieving daughter. 77 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,600 And you go down the lab to have a cup of tea with Eleanor? 78 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,720 Andy, my boy, talk about delegation, 79 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,760 it's an art. 80 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,800 It's a joke. 81 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,960 Female vic definitely went first. 82 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,600 The angle of the wound suggests he was on the bed straddling her. 83 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,640 So, what he pinned her down? 84 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,360 Pretty much. Not that he needed to. 85 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,000 The chisel went in seven times and never once missed the target. 86 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,400 He hit the heart, stomach, liver and kidneys. 87 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,880 She probably never woke up enough to move. 88 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,920 He wasn't messing around then? 89 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Oh, no. 90 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,000 He wanted her dead. 91 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,040 I'd say it was personal. 92 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,400 See this spatter pattern here? 93 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,680 To get cast off like this, 94 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,280 the weapon has to be moving hard and fast. 95 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:36,840 This guy was really angry. 96 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:38,880 And the husband? Same thing. 97 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,920 Another six hits, no hesitations. 98 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,120 I reckon they were dead after the first couple of wounds. 99 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Can you think of a reason 100 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,520 why anyone would want to harm your parents? 101 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,560 No. 102 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,840 They are lovely people. 103 00:05:57,840 --> 00:05:59,880 Everyone loves them. 104 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,400 Maybe they were having financial troubles? 105 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,440 Doing up a place like this 106 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,600 can spiral out of control. Maybe they needed some cash. 107 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,840 Tried to borrow some from someone? No. 108 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:12,880 My dad budgets for everything. 109 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,920 Right down to the last penny. 110 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:18,880 This was their dream home. 111 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,320 They wanted to get it exactly right. 112 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:24,880 It was for their retirement. 113 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,440 When they finally sold the agency. 114 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,480 They were in business together? 115 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,520 Sleepytime Sitters. 116 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,560 It's a baby-sitting agency. 117 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,680 Might there be somebody with a grudge? 118 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,000 Maybe an employee that you had to let go? 119 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,040 David always said 120 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,000 treat people fairly and you'll see the best of them. 121 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,560 A lot of our ladies have been with us for years. 122 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,600 You've never had to sack anybody? 123 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,840 If someone really wasn't working out, 124 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:55,480 Elaine had such a gentle way of dealing with it. 125 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,120 It was like she was helping them 126 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,120 find something they were better suited to. 127 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Bob Mitchell will tell you a different story. 128 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Who is Bob Mitchell? The partner in the early days. 129 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,040 Thought he was a real go-getter. And that wasn't their way? 130 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,960 Definitely not. They dissolved the partnership. 131 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Six months after he was ditched by the Lerners, 132 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Mitchell declared himself bankrupt. 133 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,800 Since then it looks like he's lurched 134 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,960 from one failed business to the next. This is his latest. 135 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,680 While his former partners are making a fortune? 136 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,200 That could make a man bitter. Did you get anything from Ellie? 137 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,520 In her opinion, it was nasty and quite possibly personal. 138 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,120 I realised I was in the wrong sector and refocused my goals. 139 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,040 Haven't looked back. So really they did you a favour? 140 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Yes, actually. Where were you Saturday evening? 141 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,920 Around midnight? 142 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,960 About 150 miles away. 143 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,000 I was attending an entrepreneurial weekend in Stoke. 144 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,960 Can any of your fellow entrepreneurs confirm that? 145 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,000 I wasn't sharing a room 146 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,040 but they saw me leave the bar. 147 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,080 Mitchell checks out. 148 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,680 Several guests remember him being drunk and annoying around 11:30. 149 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,480 We have no other suspects? According to everyone, 150 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,320 the Lerners are saints. Not an enemy in the world. 151 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,360 What about the bloody thumb print? 152 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,960 We've printed 26 of the workers, guv, 153 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,800 but not one of them even comes close. 154 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,360 So if everyone who knew them loved them, what are we left with? 155 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,640 An aborted burglary? Or...random nutter. 156 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,600 Either way... Let me guess, we go back to the beginning, 157 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,640 and see if we missed anything? 158 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Elaine is asleep on the right-hand side, 159 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,920 David asleep on the left. 160 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Our man comes in, doesn't touch anything. 161 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,080 Makes his way to the right-hand side of the bed. 162 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,400 He braces himself against the headboard 163 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,440 and then stabs her multiple times. 164 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,600 The partial print we have is off his right thumb. 165 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,440 Fine. Then we've narrowed it down to a left-handed killer. 166 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,480 But then David wakes up, 167 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,520 tries to stop him, they fight, 168 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,560 he loses, 169 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,320 and then he falls backwards over Elaine's body. 170 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,880 So now we have two dead bodies. Where does he go? What does he do? 171 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,040 He doesn't touch anything. He doesn't steal anything. 172 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,880 No, instead, he goes downstairs and he has a wash. 173 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,920 In the kitchen sink. 174 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,880 Do you need me to move? 175 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,200 No, no, you're fine, don't worry. We won't be much longer. 176 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,520 Although you might prefer not to listen to this. That's OK. 177 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,560 So he cleans up in the sink. 178 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:28,600 And then he goes out the way he came in. 179 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,880 Why not just go through the door? 180 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,880 It's always double locked. 181 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,320 He wouldn't know that. Unless he tried it. 182 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,480 But he didn't. No prints inside or out 183 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,520 and he wasn't wearing gloves. 184 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,080 Do you have the keys to the door, please, Elizabeth? 185 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,280 The fence isn't very high. 186 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,720 But why didn't he try the door before the window? 187 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,600 JAE Security Services. 188 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Elizabeth... 189 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,680 Elizabeth, sorry. 190 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,760 There used to be another door here, yeah? 191 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Yeah. 192 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,840 A big metal security door. 193 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,600 My parents took it out when they did the kitchen. 194 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,640 The house was like Fort Knox. 195 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,680 Right. 196 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:24,240 And do you know the name of the people that lived here before? 197 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,400 A woman called Camilla Mallon. 198 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,720 She was in the papers a couple of years ago 199 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,160 after some big hedge fund collapsed. 200 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,480 Turned out it had all been a scam. 201 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,440 Her partners were all done for fraud but she got off. 202 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,960 A lot of people weren't very happy. That's why she had to move. 203 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Maybe she received some threats. 204 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,040 That's what my mum said. 205 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,200 That's why they got such a good price. 206 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Oh, my god. 207 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Yeah. 208 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Maybe your parents weren't the intended victims. 209 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,040 Did she leave a forwarding address? 210 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,600 The threats came from investors who lost money. 211 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,120 They were sent to the office, never my home. 212 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,960 The police didn't think I was in any real danger. 213 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,400 But it seemed sensible to move somewhere with more security. 214 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Some people weren't too pleased that you got off? 215 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,960 If it wasn't enough that I lost my marriage, my business 216 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,200 and nearly took the fall for a fraud I knew nothing about, then no, 217 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,720 apparently not. What about your partners? 218 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,200 They can't have been pleased when you gave evidence against them? 219 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,960 They were going down with or without my evidence. 220 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,200 Anyway, they are both still in prison. 221 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,320 You're not suggesting they hired some kind of hitman? 222 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,360 What would be the point? 223 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Mallon got off on a technicality. 224 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Did a deal with the FSA, ratted out her partners. 225 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,200 That must have made you angry? 226 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,520 They conned me out of nearly a quarter of a million pounds. 227 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,360 How do you think I felt? Angry enough to write a threatening letter. 228 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,520 I'd had a few whiskies too many. Wanted to let off steam. 229 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,760 At the end of the day, she was small fry. 230 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,320 It was the other two who screwed me over and they're behind bars. 231 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Justice was done. And luckily I can afford to lose a few quid. 232 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,800 That is fortunate. 233 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,320 Our whole life savings gone just like that. 234 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,520 First risk I ever took in my life. And the last. 235 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,560 Camilla Mallon gets off scot free. 236 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:22,600 She'll get what's coming to her. 237 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,640 Yeah? 238 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,560 I hear you created quite a scene outside the court. 239 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:31,400 Sounded like you were ready to get violent. What good would that do? 240 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,840 No. We're taking out a civil action against all three of them. 241 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,800 Me and about 50 other investors. I'll tell you something for nothing. 242 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,720 That Mallon woman, real piece of work. In what way? 243 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,920 Husband stands by her right through the trial, then she gets off, 244 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,760 dumps him and takes him to the cleaners in the divorce. 245 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,520 No-one screwed anyone over. 246 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,560 We just both took out what we put in. 247 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:55,880 Which wasn't a lot in my case, it's true. 248 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,920 University lecturers don't tend to rake in the cash. 249 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,400 But, hey, we're not in it for the money. 250 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,440 Much like police officers. 251 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,400 You're sure it was Camilla this person meant to kill? 252 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,440 It's a definite possibility, yeah. 253 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,600 God. I just can't get my head round it. 254 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,640 It was pretty frightening when people made threats. 255 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,960 But neither of us really believed them. 256 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,920 So you and your wife, you separated after the trial? 257 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,080 And you both moved out of the house? Yeah, that's right. 258 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,000 There was no bad feeling? No row about who got what? 259 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,040 No, nothing like that, why? 260 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,080 You're kidding? 261 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,120 You think I'm a suspect? 262 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,160 These are just routine questions. 263 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,800 I was married to Camilla for five years. I do know where she lives. 264 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,400 And I certainly know what she looks like. 265 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,640 I'm hardly going to mix her up with someone else, am I? 266 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,520 We spoke to about a dozen investors 267 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,560 who made explicit threats. 268 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:53,800 But so far none of them really jump out. 269 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,440 It's gonna take months to track down the rest. 270 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,760 The ex-husband couldn't narrow it? No. 271 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,480 He wasn't interested in his wife's business. Typical healthy marriage. 272 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,320 This is interesting. Half an hour before the Lerners were killed, 273 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,880 a Ford Focus has an encounter with a lamp post two streets away. 274 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,720 The driver of the vehicle abandons it. Thank you. 275 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,760 And the vehicle is towed away the following morning. 276 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,800 And this is relevant how? 277 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,360 Well, it's relevant because said Ford Focus 278 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,680 is registered to a Mr Lucas Boyd. 279 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,720 Our lady banker's ex. 280 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,760 Bet he didn't mention that, did he? 281 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,040 I'm sorry. I know I should have told you about the crash. 282 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,080 So why didn't you? 283 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,120 I didn't think it was relevant. 284 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,400 And, well, to be honest, I'd had a few drinks. 285 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,440 But I just took the corner too fast. 286 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,480 No-one else was involved. 287 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,040 This isn't about the drink driving, Mr Boyd. 288 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Just tell us what happened. Sure. 289 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,120 Um... 290 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,760 I met up with a few colleagues in a bar in Putney. 291 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,680 And... I was driving home with Josh. 292 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Josh Shelton. He teaches sports science. 293 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,680 And... 294 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,800 it turns out we should have got a cab. 295 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,400 So you were a five-minute walk from your old house? 296 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,440 I suppose so. 297 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,280 It's a bit odd that you were in the same area the same night. 298 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,240 Not really. I live in Colliers Wood just up the road. 299 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,080 So after the crash, Josh and yourself just headed home, yeah? Yeah. 300 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,120 Well, Josh took a cab to his. I... 301 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,320 I felt I needed some air, so I walked. 302 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,720 Lucas said he drove you home, Josh. 303 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,760 I was wasted. 304 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,880 I didn't realise how far gone Lucas was until we got in the car. 305 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,800 Two pint is his limit, he's the designated driver. 306 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,840 But Saturday was different. 307 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,920 He was a man on a mission. About time, too. 308 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,040 How come? The bloke's been divorced almost 18 months. 309 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,800 We kept telling him to relax a bit, have some fun. 310 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Tell me about the accident. 311 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,400 Not much to tell. Lucas was driving too fast. 312 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,560 Lost control round a bend, wrapped us round a lamp post. 313 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,280 I banged my shoulder, but nothing too serious. What about Lucas? 314 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,040 He smacked his head against the steering wheel. 315 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Might even have knocked himself out. 316 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,600 But he came round after a few minutes and said he'd walk it off. 317 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,240 Beer. Natural anaesthetic. 318 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,480 The mate backs up Lucas's story about the crash. 319 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,200 But he couldn't be sure 320 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,760 which direction he headed off in afterwards. 321 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,800 Back in the days when I was drinking, 322 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,800 I once went on a bender for three days. 323 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Aside from the train ticket to Hull, 324 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,400 and a receipt for two hedge trimmers, 325 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,440 it's still a complete blank. 326 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,480 Anyway, once I'd staggered home, 327 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,560 it took me about half an hour to realise 328 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,800 I was standing at the wrong house. I lived two doors down. 329 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,440 You think Lucas went to his old house by mistake? 330 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,760 I don't know but he was paralytic drunk, 331 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,480 he'd had a bang on the head, it is a possibility. 332 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,000 But he was used to there being a security door 333 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,560 so maybe that made him go through a window. Why kill the Lerners? 334 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,080 If he was still drunk enough to think he lived in that house... 335 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Maybe it wasn't such an amicable divorce after all. 336 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,240 Obviously I can't go into details, 337 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,000 but the fact is he never said a bad word about her. 338 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,760 In my experience, divorce normally brings out the worst in people. 339 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,800 Trust me, it does. 340 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,240 But Lucas, Mr Boyd, he couldn't have been nicer. 341 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,880 That must have made your job a lot easier. 342 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,800 To be honest, it was a bit frustrating. Why's that? 343 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,080 They'd been married five years, he was entitled to half the house. 344 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,240 But he didn't want to fight her for it. 345 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,800 Right. And have you had any more dealings with him? 346 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Yeah, when he was buying his flat, he asked me to do the conveyancing. 347 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,880 But I only do family law so I passed him on to a colleague. 348 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,920 When was the last time you spoke to him? A few days ago. 349 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,360 He'd read about those people getting killed in his old house, 350 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:51,480 said he'd been having these vivid nightmares about it. 351 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,040 When you say "vivid nightmares", 352 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,200 he was dreaming that he'd been murdered in his old house? 353 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,920 No. In the dreams he isn't the one who gets killed. 354 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,960 He's the killer. 355 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,360 I keep telling you I was drunk. 356 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:08,800 I don't remember anything after the crash. 357 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,920 You had a blackout? I don't know. I guess. 358 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,880 Just take a look at the photographs for me, please, Lucas, if you will. 359 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,240 Why would I do that to those people? I didn't even know them. 360 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,440 I'm not saying that you went there intending to kill them. 361 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,000 Maybe it was a mistake. What kind of mistake? 362 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,120 I know how it can be. You have a little too much to drink. 363 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:31,840 You do things you regret. I'm not an alcoholic. 364 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,880 This was a one-off. 365 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,120 Don't you think I'd remember doing something like that? 366 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:40,160 Not necessarily. 367 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,640 This is crazy. I didn't do this. 368 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,680 I couldn't. 369 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,840 OK, what about the next morning, then? 370 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,200 Lucas, you had blood on your clothes, yes? 371 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Well, yes, I cut my head in the accident. Of course there was blood. 372 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,200 Maybe there was more blood than there should have been. 373 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,520 No. 374 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,560 No, there wasn't. 375 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,280 What did you do with the clothes? I washed them. 376 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,120 I don't know anything about how these people died. 377 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,920 OK. 378 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,560 So, what is it that you see in your dreams? 379 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,600 In my dreams? Yeah. 380 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,640 You're joking? 381 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,200 Well, you have dreamed about killing them, haven't you? 382 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,360 So you tell me in your dream how do you get into the house? 383 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,400 You don't have a key. 384 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,480 What do you do? Do you look for a spare? Or... 385 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,520 ..try and get in through a window? 386 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,320 You know what I think, Lucas? 387 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,960 I think you started to walk home. 388 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,840 Without realising, you ended up at your old house. 389 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,880 I think he could be on the verge. 390 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,920 Then this should push him over. 391 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,960 Prints a match. 392 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,120 You certainly don't notice that your old security door 393 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:04,160 has been taken away. 394 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,240 How would I know that? I haven't been there since we moved. 395 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,280 That's just it. 396 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,320 That's why we went, isn't it? 397 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,920 He's our killer. 398 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,680 And he doesn't even remember doing it. 399 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,760 Given the seriousness of the crime and frenzied nature of the attack, 400 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,800 we apply for a remand into custody. 401 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,840 My Lord, Mr Boyd has no history of violent behaviour. 402 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,520 He is a well-respected university lecturer 403 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,960 with strong ties to the local community. 404 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,000 But with no immediate family nearby 405 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,520 and a double murder charge hanging over him, 406 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,760 neither of which provide much incentive to stick around. 407 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Bail is refused. 408 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,800 Mr Boyd, you will be remanded into custody. 409 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,000 He's in a state of shock. 410 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,040 He's hardly a flight risk. 411 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,080 Another of your lost lambs? 412 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,400 The man has been completely steam-rollered by the police. 413 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,960 There's still his thumbprint in the victims' blood. Partial. 414 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,200 Which means it's only a partial match. 415 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Close enough to satisfy an expert. Assuming you can use it as evidence. 416 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,280 Why wouldn't we be? 417 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,320 Because of the way it was obtained. 418 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,560 Lucas Boyd was arrested purely to allow 419 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,680 the police to take his fingerprints. 420 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,920 Because they had reasonable suspicion 421 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,160 based on a reliable witness statement. 422 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,200 A second-hand account of a dream. 423 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,400 An account that came from Lucas Boyd's own solicitor. 424 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,720 Are you claiming privilege? Of course. 425 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,360 It was a personal phone call. It's a bit of a long shot. We'll see. 426 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,800 Nothing ventured, nothing gained, Jacob. 427 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Did you learn nothing from our time together? 428 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,640 Mags was my mistress. Pupil mistress. 429 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,120 And you thought you knew it all even then. 430 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:02,000 My Lord, the rules on legal professional privilege protect 431 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000 all communications between a solicitor and his or her client. 432 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,840 That may be so but the fact remains 433 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,920 that the witness was not under instruction by the defendant. 434 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,080 Miss Byers had previously handled my client's divorce. 435 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,040 So it's reasonable to assume that if he required further legal advice, 436 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,480 she would be the person that he would call. 437 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,520 As he in fact did. 438 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,040 He made a personal phone call during which he discussed the murders. 439 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,080 He disclosed personal information 440 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,800 believing it would be treated as confidential. 441 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,320 To use it as grounds for arrest was unlawful, 442 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,440 so the fingerprints the police subsequently obtained 443 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,000 cannot be used as evidence. I accept your logic, Ms Rumsfield, 444 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,320 but issues of confidentiality aside, 445 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,280 the print obtained from Mr Boyd proved to be a match. 446 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,120 As I'm sure you're aware, 447 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,640 partial prints have been known to be misleading. 448 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,880 Less so, when combined with bloodstains, My Lord. 449 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,320 DNA from both victims has now been retrieved 450 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,240 from the defendant's clothing 451 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,880 which Miss Rumsfield appears to have conveniently forgotten. 452 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,200 That would certainly seem to reduce the margin for error. 453 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,760 Ms Rumsfield, your application is refused. 454 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,680 My client will be relying on a defence of non-insane automatism. 455 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,200 I don't understand! We know he killed them! 456 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,240 He's not even denying it. 457 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,280 So why isn't he pleading guilty? 458 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,320 It all comes down to intention. 459 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,360 To get a verdict of murder, 460 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,440 we have to show that Lucas Boyd meant to kill your parents. 461 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,480 He stabbed them over a dozen times. 462 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,520 Of course he meant to kill them. 463 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,840 But because he didn't know them and had no obvious motive, 464 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,080 the defence say he didn't know what he was doing. So what? 465 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,120 They're still dead. 466 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,240 My mum and dad are gone because of him 467 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,160 whether he knew what he was doing or not. Exactly. 468 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,320 And we're going to make sure the jury don't forget that. 469 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,880 I never met those people. 470 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,920 I've no idea why... 471 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,440 How does it make you feel? 472 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,920 I have nightmares. 473 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,960 All the time. 474 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,000 It's like I'm there. I can see them. 475 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,040 But I still don't know why. 476 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,040 And I don't even know if the nightmares are true. 477 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,080 I don't even know if I did it. 478 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,920 You still don't remember? 479 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,640 So what do you remember? 480 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,320 We'd been to a bar. 481 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,360 Josh and I left together. 482 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,760 I remember music playing in the car. 483 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,920 Then I must have swerved or something. 484 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,960 I hit a lamp post 485 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000 and I hit my head. 486 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560 Then Josh hailed a cab. 487 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,600 And what did you do? 488 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,080 I thought I walked home. 489 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,120 But you didn't. 490 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,880 I don't know. 491 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,040 An alcoholic blackout combined with the head injury 492 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,560 could have set off his associative episode. 493 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,120 It's possible he didn't know what he was doing 494 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:12,440 and genuinely doesn't remember it now. 495 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,360 Even if he had a blackout, he caused it by drinking. 496 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,600 So he's still guilty of manslaughter. 497 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,360 Except with multiple factors, we can't say which one triggered it. 498 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:24,280 If it's the head injury, that's a different story. 499 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,320 So he could walk? 500 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,680 Never mind the dead couple he left lying in their own blood. 501 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,720 Are we missing the obvious here? 502 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,760 The guy got drunk, 503 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,000 got worked up, went looking for his ex, 504 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,040 but ended up at the wrong house because he was pissed. 505 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,640 He knew exactly what he was doing, he just did it to the wrong people. 506 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,480 There's no conscious motive for wanting to kill the ex-wife. 507 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,600 Maybe he regretted he'd let her walk off with the money. 508 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,640 This was bloody and frenzied. 509 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,960 I'd say the motivation was more primal. 510 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,480 Well, money or passion, they both take us back to the ex. 511 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,240 No, not Lucas. 512 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,280 It's crazy. 513 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:07,400 Do you still see each other? 514 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,440 Occasionally. 515 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,960 We've...tried to remain civilised through everything. 516 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,120 Just because we're no longer together 517 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,160 doesn't mean I don't care about him. 518 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,800 You must have both been under a great deal of pressure with the trial? 519 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,840 It wasn't like that. 520 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,880 I know what you're trying to do. 521 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,840 You think Lucas must be harbouring 522 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,320 some kind of seething resentment against me. 523 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,360 But it's not true. 524 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,400 The marriage just wasn't working. 525 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,640 Yes, I instigated divorce proceedings 526 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,680 but it was completely amicable. 527 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,560 According to his solicitor, 528 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,200 Lucas only agreed to the divorce because it was Camilla's idea. 529 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,640 That was the basis of their relationship. 530 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,880 She said, "Jump", he said, "How high?" 531 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,800 So 18 months later, he has to accept she's not coming back. 532 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,440 He thinks about those years being treated like dirt. He cracks. 533 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,960 The husband scorned, that we can work with. 534 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,600 So in your professional opinion, Miss Byers, 535 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,760 if anyone had grounds for divorce, it would have been your client Mr Boyd? 536 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,680 That's correct. There had been 537 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,400 multiple examples of unreasonable behaviour. 538 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,960 They hadn't been on holiday for three years, 539 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,120 because his wife hadn't wanted to take the time off work. 540 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,200 And their sexual relationship had ended some time before 541 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,560 because of Ms Mallon's intimacy issues. 542 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,720 Yet in the end, he not only agreed to let her divorce him, 543 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,640 but he also agreed to an 80/20 split of their assets. 544 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,200 Do you know why he chose this course of action? 545 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,440 He told me he wanted to give his wife whatever she wanted. 546 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Then perhaps she'd realise she was making a mistake. 547 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,080 So he didn't actually want the divorce to go through? No. 548 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,120 And yet the divorce did go through? 549 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:52,040 And Mr Boyd was left with nothing but a burning sense of injustice... 550 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,080 My Lord, Mr Thorne is indulging in lurid speculation. 551 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,600 Save it for your closing speech, Mr Thorne. 552 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,640 Certainly, My Lord. 553 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,760 I'm merely pointing out that the defence of automatism 554 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,720 implies that Mr Boyd experienced 555 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,040 a total loss of control over his actions, 556 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,920 whereas harbouring a grudge 557 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,360 and deciding to kill your ex-wife is a very different matter 558 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,800 whether you end up in the right house or not. 559 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,560 Have you ever had a drunken blackout? 560 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,080 Lost a few hours here and there as a student. 561 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,240 I threw up in someone's garden. Nice. 562 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,080 But your expert agrees it could have been a disassociative episode. 563 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,120 In theory. But now we've shown Boyd 564 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,280 had a motive for wanting his wife dead, 565 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,920 the automatism defence seems too convenient. 566 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,760 So is this where you soften me up, try to get me to lower the charges? 567 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,400 Nothing so gauche. I'm simply buying you a drink to say thank you. 568 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,440 OK. Thank you for what? 569 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,480 Establishing my client's new defence. 570 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,520 We're changing to loss of control 571 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,840 as a result of Battered Person Syndrome. 572 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,400 Right. Who's supposed to have battered who? 573 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,440 It appears Mr Boyd 574 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,560 was subjected to sustained mental and emotional abuse 575 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,600 throughout his marriage. 576 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,160 But like many victims, was unable to admit it, even to himself. 577 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,120 Fortunately, your witness was able to bring the situation to light. 578 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,480 Come off it, Mags. 579 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,120 Male spousal abuse is a serious issue, Jacob. 580 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,240 So it'd be highly unethical to use it as a cynical ploy. 581 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,680 Absolutely. But what we have here is a genuine tragedy. 582 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,520 Lucas Boyd was as much a victim as the people he killed. 583 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,040 Try and tell that to their daughter. 584 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,240 Battered Person Syndrome? 585 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,840 Hoist by your own petard. She's taken your motive 586 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,280 and turned it into a defence. Why not stick with automatism? 587 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 At least she had a chance of a complete acquittal. 588 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,160 Failing that, she could have pushed for manslaughter. 589 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,280 What it does is paint Boyd as a victim. 590 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,640 With an unsympathetic jury, he could be looking at murder. 591 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680 But now instead of an angry bloke, 592 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,120 he becomes a nice guy who knocked his head and finally snapped 593 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760 after years of mental cruelty. It won't work. 594 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,800 He didn't kill his so-called abuser. He killed the Lerners. 595 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Battered Person Syndrome is no defence against killing strangers. 596 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,880 But so long as he believed he was killing his ex, 597 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,840 Mags can argue that the history of abuse is relevant. 598 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Then you'll have to redress the balance. 599 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,200 I want him put away for murder. 600 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,320 The sad truth is, in our society, 601 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,600 male spousal abuse is still largely treated as a joke. 602 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,160 And would you say the defendant fits the profile of an abused spouse? 603 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,200 Absolutely. 604 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,840 Lucas was repeatedly criticised and humiliated 605 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,880 in front of friends and family. 606 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,000 His ex-wife controlled the finances 607 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,600 and would frequently withhold money and sex 608 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760 as a means of control and punishment. 609 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,400 So he must have hated his wife? 610 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,120 On the contrary, he loved her very much. 611 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,240 He was desperate for Camilla to become more affectionate 612 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,000 and for them to forge a healthier relationship. 613 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,040 And yet he wanted her dead? 614 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,760 There can come a point where the victim realises 615 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,800 he must break free of his abuser. 616 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,000 By violent means if necessary. 617 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,040 And in your opinion, 618 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,800 is that what happened on the night of the murders? 619 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,840 Yes. I believe so. 620 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,320 Dr Bligh, 621 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,240 how common is it for victims of spousal abuse 622 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,000 to ultimately kill his or her abuser? 623 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,040 Not that common. 624 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,400 But in some cases... People who've been through a painful divorce 625 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,760 frequently get drunk and get angry about the past, do they not? 626 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,800 Yes, of course. But... 627 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,840 Nothing more, My Lord. 628 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,760 Lucas, 629 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,520 is it true that your ex-wife abandoned you 630 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,760 in the middle of your honeymoon 631 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,520 because she decided to return to work early? 632 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,560 She was negotiating a big deal. 633 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,600 She said it was bad timing. 634 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,640 And was it bad timing 635 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,000 when you locked yourself out one night after a faculty party 636 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,680 and Camilla refused to open the door? 637 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,720 She had an early meeting 638 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,760 so she'd asked me not to wake her. 639 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,080 So you were left out in the cold and rain 640 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,600 and had to resort to forcing a window 641 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,120 and climbing into your own home? 642 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,440 Like a burglar? Despite the fact that your wife was inside? 643 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,600 She... 644 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560 She felt bad the next day. And it only happened once. 645 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,880 How many times did she tell you you should get a better-paid job 646 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280 because she was sick of supporting you? 647 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,320 Camilla had very high standards. 648 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,520 Something I loved about her. 649 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,480 And how often did she tell you she loved you? 650 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,600 She did tell you she loved you? 651 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,640 You were married after all. 652 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,160 You were meant to be sharing a life together. 653 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,600 Camilla found it hard to be affectionate. 654 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,080 And that could be hurtful sometimes. 655 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,440 But I knew that she cared about me. 656 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,840 And I loved her... 657 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,880 very much. 658 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,440 No further questions, My Lord. 659 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,120 Let's leave it there, Mr Thorne. 660 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,840 We'll resume at 10:00am on Monday with your cross-examination. 661 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,880 Of course, My Lord. 662 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920 Court will rise! 663 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,560 Camilla! 664 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,000 You can't let him upset you. 665 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,040 Did you hear what he said? 666 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,040 The depressing thing is the jury seem to be buying it. 667 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,880 A lot of men feel emasculated by a woman being the main breadwinner. 668 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,920 Never understood it myself. I'd like to be a kept man. 669 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,400 Sadly, Mrs Sharpe is not amenable. 670 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,840 So it all comes down to how many of the jury resent their wives? 671 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,880 How many heart strings Mags pulls. 672 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,920 Sounds like she played a blinder. 673 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,440 Yep, the wronged husband intent on defending 674 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,440 the abusive wife till the bitter end. 675 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,480 It's a clever choice. 676 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,520 What if he was wronged? 677 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,560 What do you mean? I don't know. 678 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,400 I saw Camilla with Josh Shelton outside the court. 679 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,040 Was he offering her support in her hour of need? 680 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,960 He wasn't snogging her outside the Old Bailey if that's what you mean. 681 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,480 Far from it. From the way they were arguing, 682 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520 I got the impression... 683 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,560 Lovers' tiff? 684 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,960 If Lucas thought Camilla had a lover... 685 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,000 It's a big "if". 686 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,320 Then it could explain why he killed David as well as Elaine. 687 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,320 Mags can hardly run loss of control 688 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,360 based on him finding out his wife was having an affair. 689 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,520 The judge would throw it out of court. 690 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,640 OK, then we talk to Camilla. 691 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,360 But if I've got to poke around in the intimate details 692 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,760 of the woman's love life, you're coming with me. 693 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,160 I know you must think I'm some kind of monster. 694 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,080 After all the things they've said about me. But... 695 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,120 you have no idea. 696 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,600 I tried. 697 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,640 I really tried. 698 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,320 When we first met, Lucas seemed so... 699 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,360 gentle and sweet. 700 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,360 And then I started to see how needy he was. 701 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,640 He needed constant reassurance. 702 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,400 He wouldn't believe that I wanted to be with him. 703 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,960 He was convinced that I was going to leave him 704 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,240 or that I must be sleeping with other men. 705 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,080 Yes, I know. 706 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,920 But he didn't even want me to see my friends. 707 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,640 Tell them about the night he broke in. 708 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,720 Lucas told you I locked him out. 709 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,760 But that's not what happened. 710 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,960 I managed to persuade him that... 711 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,000 we needed some time apart. 712 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,760 And he agreed to stay with a friend for a few days. 713 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,320 I went to bed and I put the dead bolt on the door. 714 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,560 I woke up at 2:00 in the morning 715 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,920 to find him standing at the foot of the bed. 716 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,960 Sobbing. 717 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,440 He had broken through the kitchen window 718 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,480 and he was holding a knife. 719 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,960 He told me that if... 720 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,240 ..if I didn't let him come home, then he'd kill himself. 721 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,440 And you believed him? 722 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,480 Part of me thought it was an act. 723 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,200 But I could never be sure and that's why I stayed. 724 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,520 But then I met Josh and... 725 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,560 I knew I had to leave. 726 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,680 For my own sanity. 727 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,160 I just... 728 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,320 never knew how to tell Lucas about us. 729 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,400 You're sure he doesn't already know? 730 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,440 No, there's no way. 731 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,280 We were very careful. We'd never go out in London. 732 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,680 And if we go away for a weekend, we travel separately. 733 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,720 Even now after all this time? 734 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,880 Camilla is still scared about what he might do to himself. 735 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,640 Maybe we're wrong. 736 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,080 If Lucas knew all this time why wait till now to do something? 737 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,120 He can't keep his emotions in check. 738 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,280 What if we're looking at it backwards? 739 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,840 What if it wasn't slow-burning resentment? 740 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,320 What if something happened the night of the murders to trigger it? 741 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,360 He got drunk and hit his head. But why did he get drunk? 742 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,880 He never usually drinks more than two pints. 743 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,040 What was different that night? He got drunk on purpose? 744 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,560 Maybe he just found out something upsetting 745 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,600 and needed to get hammered. 746 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,160 When he drove into a lamp post that could have been deliberate? 747 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,040 You didn't have plans this weekend, did you? 748 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,920 The police took statements from all the guys 749 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,960 at the bar with Lucas and Josh. 750 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,040 And nobody spoke to Lucas about anything more personal 751 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,600 than football and university league tables. 752 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,360 However, they all commented that Lucas started drinking heavily 753 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,400 as soon as he got to the bar. 754 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,960 Josh was adamant that no-one at work knew about him and Camilla. 755 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,520 Then he must have found out earlier. But how? 756 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,480 100 different ways. Maybe Lucas saw them together. 757 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,000 Maybe Josh turned up for work smelling of Camilla's perfume? 758 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,760 Let's stick to things we can prove, shall we? 759 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,080 What did Josh say about the early part of the evening? Not much. 760 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,000 He was coaching a rugby match, 761 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,160 was running late, so he came straight round to Lucas's, 762 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,440 checked a few urgent e-mails, took a shower, drove to the bar. 763 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,480 Checked his e-mails? 764 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,240 What, on his phone? I presume so, but I can check. 765 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,280 Great. You hungry? 766 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,320 I'm starving. 767 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,840 Listen to this. 768 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,480 Josh's phone was low on batteries so he borrowed Lucas's laptop. 769 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,920 I checked with the police tech guys who went over Lucas's computer. 770 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,360 You got hold of them on a Saturday? Technology never sleeps. 771 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,400 They called up Lucas's history 772 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,240 and it showed Josh logged onto his web-based e-mail account at 6:20, 773 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,560 sent a few e-mails, then closed it down. 774 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,120 Ten minutes later, someone went back online 775 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,560 and bought a printer cartridge using Lucas Boyd's credit card details, 776 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,400 then they called up and logged straight into Josh's e-mail account. 777 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,320 So Lucas went looking for incriminating e-mails? 778 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,880 He probably just went to log on, but cos Josh hadn't logged out, 779 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,600 just closed the window... Lucas went straight into his account. 780 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,640 And saw an inbox full of e-mails from Miss Moneypenny. 781 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,160 When he opened one it would be obvious it was Camilla. 782 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,200 So much for discretion. Yeah. 783 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,240 Miss Moneypenny and Scrummy Half, 784 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,960 not to mention all the references to "L" coping since the divorce. 785 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,000 It's not exactly the Enigma Code. 786 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,680 Also Josh never clears his inbox. 787 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,720 So the e-mails go back three years. 788 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:53,960 Lucas would have realised everything. 789 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,520 Which gives us sexual jealousy and revenge. 790 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,560 We can get him for murder. 791 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,680 Mr Boyd, 792 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,400 it's clear that despite the end of your marriage 793 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,560 you still have very strong feelings about your ex-wife. 794 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,600 Yes, I do. 795 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,760 Even during the divorce proceedings, 796 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,000 you were hoping to salvage the relationship? 797 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,200 I hoped we might be able to work things out. 798 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,240 It must have come as a shock then 799 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:23,400 to find out that she'd been unfaithful 800 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,160 and was in fact sleeping with a colleague of yours behind your back? 801 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,320 A terrible shock, in fact. 802 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,560 My Lord, this is pure conjecture on the part of Mr Thorne. 803 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,200 These allegations are in no way based on fact. 804 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,840 On the contrary. I wish to enter into evidence 805 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,160 a printout of the e-mail correspondence 806 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,600 between Josh Shelton and Camilla Mallon. 807 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,040 A correspondence which clearly documents 808 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,600 the couple's three-year-long relationship 809 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,320 and which was seen by Mr Boyd on the night he murdered the Lerners. 810 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,360 Was it not, Mr Boyd? I don't... 811 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,040 Did you or did you not access 812 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,360 Josh Shelton's e-mail account on that night? I'm not sure. 813 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,080 After you saw the e-mails you started drinking 814 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,800 to work up courage to confront your so-called friend. I was upset. 815 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,760 So you waited till you had Mr Shelton alone in the car, 816 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,680 and then you attempted to drive him into a lamp post. 817 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,240 After that you went to find your ex-wife. No. 818 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:20,480 No, it was a mistake. I lost control of the car. 819 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,120 We've heard a great deal about loss of control during this trial. 820 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,720 The defence would have us believe that because of your loss of control 821 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,400 you cannot be held accountable for your actions. 822 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,120 But let's just stop and look at those actions. Shall we? 823 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,160 David and Elaine Lerner... 824 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,600 were asleep in bed when you broke into their home. 825 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,800 You armed yourself with this chisel 826 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,920 and then stabbed them both brutally, 827 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,080 and repeatedly, until they were dead. 828 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,120 Of this there is no doubt. 829 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,680 Your clothes were covered in the victims' DNA 830 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,400 and your thumb print was found in Elaine's blood 831 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,040 on the wall above the bed. But I didn't mean to. 832 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,400 We know you didn't mean to kill the Lerners 833 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,440 because your intended victims were your supposed friend and ex-wife. 834 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,000 The trouble is you had to get drunk in order to go through with it. 835 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,120 And became so intoxicated that you mistakenly broke into your old house 836 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,480 where, consumed with rage and jealousy, 837 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,240 you brutally murdered two innocent strangers! 838 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,280 David and Elaine Lerner! 839 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,920 Believing them to be your ex-wife and her lover. 840 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,960 No. 841 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,000 No, that isn't what happened. 842 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,920 I was upset, yeah. 843 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,960 OK, but I had a right to be. 844 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,680 I'd have done anything for you. 845 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,720 You know that. 846 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,720 And all the time, you were with him. 847 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,840 I had... I had to show you how much you'd hurt me. 848 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,520 When I realised it wasn't you in the bed, 849 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,560 I was so relieved. 850 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,720 I love you so much, Camilla. 851 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,760 If I'd killed you, 852 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,120 I couldn't have lived with myself. 853 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,680 And yet you feel no such guilt about the Lerners? 854 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,120 Would the defendant please stand? 855 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,720 Members of the jury, 856 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,880 have you reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 857 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,920 Yes. 858 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,000 On count one, the murder of Elaine Lerner. 859 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,400 Do you find the defendant Mr Boyd guilty... 860 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,640 ..or not guilty? 861 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,680 Guilty. 862 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,720 And on count two, 863 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:46,760 the murder of David Lerner, 864 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,920 do you find the defendant Mr Boyd guilty or not guilty? 865 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,320 Guilty. 866 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,360 'Talk about passive aggressive.' 867 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,600 The guy was still controlling his ex-wife 868 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,320 two years after their divorce 869 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,520 and he's allowed to accuse her of mental abuse. 870 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,040 Given how things ended up, aggressive definitely won over passive. 871 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,600 Do you think Lucas knew he'd done it all along? 872 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,080 Maybe he only started remembering during the trial. 873 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,120 That's one hell of a flashback. 874 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,640 itfc subtitles